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I have a TIFF file in the TM65 (Transverse Mercator) projection, and want to convert it to the OSGB (British National Grid) projection. I'm trying to do this in ArcGIS using the Project Raster tool.

I can select the input and output co-ordinate system fine, but it then asks me to choose a Geographic Transformation. It seems that I have to choose two - one to go from TM65 to WGS84, and then another to go from WGS84 to OSGB. My question is - which one should I choose? What are the differences between them? I have tried choosing some almost at random (and also tried matching them up - so I do TM65->WGS84_2 and then WGS84_2 to OSGB) and each time once the points are reprojected they are displaced from their true locations - the amount varies between fairly small (but large enough to be an issue) and quite large.

Is there any way I can get an accurate conversion between TM65 and OSGB? Am I using the wrong tool?

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Currently, none of the supported transformations for OSGB36 cover the Republic nor Northern Ireland. TM65_To_WGS_1984_2 is probably the best choice for conversion to WGS84 as the older transformations have no known accuracy values.

You can find out about supported transformations in ArcGIS in technical article 21327.

If the data's offshore, there's a transformation from OSGB36 to ED50 and you could then piece together other transformations. Accuracies are several meters.

You might check the online EPSG Geodetic Parameter Dataset to see if they have any other options. Note: I'm on the subcommittee that maintains the dataset.

UPDATE - December 11 2017

EPSG:6946, TM75 to ETRS89 (3) (Esri name: "TM75_To_ETRS_1989_3_NTv2"), and EPSG:6947, TM75 to WGS 84 (4) (Esri name: "TM75_To_WGS_1984_4_NTv2"), were added to ArcGIS Desktop version 10.3.1. That version was released in mid-2015.

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    Melita, you're tha bomb when it comes to these kinds of questions! Commented Nov 8, 2011 at 18:17
  • @mkennedy, can you update on the availability of the NTV2 grid used for EPSG CRS conversion code 6946 and 6947?
    – AndreJ
    Commented Dec 10, 2017 at 9:32
  • So no chance to get it without an ESRI license?
    – AndreJ
    Commented Dec 12, 2017 at 7:13
  • It hasn't made its way into proj4 yet? I'm surprised. Share if you want @andrej
    – mkennedy
    Commented Dec 12, 2017 at 12:49
  • I guess proj4 needs an "official" source to publish it according to software licenses.
    – AndreJ
    Commented Dec 12, 2017 at 17:09
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A good description on the problem could be found here:

http://www.esri-ireland.ie/software/arcgis/free-mapping-software/ig-itm

The downloadable zip file contained a ntv2 grid for the datum shift.

Official information can be obtained from https://www.osi.ie/services/geodetic-services/coordinate-converter/ and https://www.osi.ie/resources/migrating-to-itm/

Both Irish and OSGB datum shifts can be made with ntv2 datum shift grids, but the OSGB only covers England, Wales and Scotland with limited offshore coverage, while the Irish grid has values for the whole rectangle:

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  • Links are broken. Commented Dec 7, 2017 at 23:45
  • Fixed for the osi ie links. The NTV2 grid for Ireland seems to be available for ESRI customers only, but the new OSTN15 grid from ordnancesurvey.co.uk/docs/gps/OSTN15_NTv2.zip now covers Northern Ireland as well.
    – AndreJ
    Commented Dec 9, 2017 at 13:55
  • Thanks for the info. Would love the get the one that covers Ireland as a whole. You don't happen to still have a copy? Commented Dec 11, 2017 at 10:08
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    @HeikkiVesanto take a look at github.com/Andre-J/ntv2-grids
    – AndreJ
    Commented Dec 12, 2017 at 17:08

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