Is there a way to apply topological editing to move vertices between two coincident features that are not in the same layer?

For example, if I have a crop land polygon coincident with a soil polygon (from a crop layer and a soil layer) and I want to reshape the border between the two using the node tool, is that possible without moving a vertice in crop, changing to editing soil, and moving the vertice to be coincident with crop?

What if there is a line road coincident with the edge of a polygon (i.e. a polyline layer rather than a polygon layer), again can I reshape the two at once?

I am aware of the topological editing, but that appears to only work between two polygons of the same layer.

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