Qspatialite in QGIS 1.8 (and also Spatialite-gui) delivers an "Invalid SRID" error message when I try to load shapefiles with a SRID value of 3814 (Mississippi Transverse Mercatur). The SRID is within the database file spatial_ref_sys table.

For troubleshooting purposes I tried loading the shapefiles directly into a blank QGIS session. QGIS builds its own custom CRS proj4 code and correctly reprojects the shapefiles on the fly against WGS84 Orthophoto (Bing Maps), but it doesn't attribute the projection as EPSG 3813, instead it's called "Custom 100003". I figured it should find EPSG 3814. Also, using the QGIS plugin, Qspatialite has a dialog that allows the user to scroll through a list of available projections, using both common and EPSG names, with SRID value listed as well. SRID 3814 is not listed in dialog, but I double checked and it actually is in the database's spatial_ref_sys table.

Thanks for the user who had helped me discover that the SRID is already in the table, and doesn't need to be added. Can someone help identify the problem here? It's not getting read.

EDIT: Here is the data you requested regarding my prior question (I couldn't copy it into a comment field)

This shapefile correctly reprojects on the fly to WGS 84. EsriShapefile loaded into QGIS 1.8 (Ubuntu 10.04 -- UbuntuGIS Repositories version): USER:100003 - * Generated CRS (+proj=tmerc +lat_0=32.5 +lon_0=-89.75 +k=0.9998335 +x_0=500000 +y_0=1300000 +ellps=GRS80 +towgs84=0,0,0,0,0,0,0 +units=m +no_defs)

myEsriShapefiles.prj ------ PROJCS["mstm",GEOGCS["GCS_North_American_1983",DATUM["D_North_American_1983",SPHEROID["GRS_1980",6378137.0,298.257222101]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0.0],UNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433]],PROJECTION["Transverse_Mercator"],PARAMETER["False_Easting",500000.0],PARAMETER["False_Northing",1300000.0],PARAMETER["Central_Meridian",-89.75],PARAMETER["Scale_Factor",0.9998335],PARAMETER["Latitude_Of_Origin",32.5],UNIT["Meter",1.0]]

compare this to http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3814/ 3814.prj -----

PROJCS["NAD83 / Mississippi TM",GEOGCS["GCS_North_American_1983",DATUM["D_North American Datum 1983",SPHEROID["GRS_1980",6378137.0,298.257222101]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0.0],UNIT["Degree",0.017453292519943295]],PROJECTION["Transverse Mercator"],PARAMETER["central_meridian",-89.75],PARAMETER["latitude_of_origin",32.5],PARAMETER["scale_factor",0.9998335],PARAMETER["false_easting",500000.0],PARAMETER["false_northing",1300000.0],UNIT["m",1.0]]

comparison of prj files below: 1>Esri.prj 2>3814.prj (the order of the parameters is different)


["GCS_North_American_1983",DATUM ["GCS_North_American_1983",DATUM

["D_North_American_1983",SPHEROID ["D_North American Datum 1983",SPHEROID

["GRS_1980",6378137.0,298.257222101]], ["GRS_1980",6378137.0,298.257222101]],

PROJECTION["Transverse_Mercator"], PROJECTION["Transverse Mercator"],

PARAMETER["False_Easting",500000.0], PARAMETER["false_easting",500000.0],

PARAMETER["False_Northing",1300000.0], PARAMETER["false_northing",1300000.0],

PARAMETER["Central_Meridian",-89.75], PARAMETER["central_meridian",-89.75],

PARAMETER["Scale_Factor",0.9998335], PARAMETER["scale_factor",0.9998335],

PARAMETER["Latitude_Of_Origin",32.5], PARAMETER["latitude_of_origin",32.5],

UNIT["Meter",1.0]] UNIT["m",1.0]]
  • PS- I could load shapefiles using other common SRID numbers, for instance the one for WGS84. – user12711 Nov 21 '12 at 17:10

it depends on the Version of Qgis Lisboa you use. There is a bug in Qgis standalone installer for Windows which prevents the synchronisation of Qgis own CRS database with that of Gdal, if the installation path contains blanks (which is default). The Osgeo4w Installer does it correct by now, and supplies EPSG:3814 from GDAL to qgis:

+proj=tmerc +lat_0=32.5 +lon_0=-89.75 +k=0.9998335 +x_0=500000 +y_0=1300000 +ellps=GRS80 +towgs84=0,0,0,0,0,0,0 +units=m +no_defs

If Qgis is not sure whether the .prj file is identical to a EPSG, it rather creates its own CRS. Missing towgs84 parameters could be a reason. The .prj file contains a WKT formatted CRS definition.

spatialreference.org gives this WKT definition for 3814:

PROJCS["NAD83 / Mississippi TM",
    DATUM["North American Datum 1983",
        SPHEROID["GRS 1980",6378137.0,298.257222101,
    AXIS["Geodetic latitude",NORTH],
    AXIS["Geodetic longitude",EAST],
PROJECTION["Transverse Mercator",

The towgs84 parameters differ. EPSG notes 0;0;0 for mainland USA, and 1;1;-1 only for Hawaii.

The EPSG registry at http://www.epsg-registry.org/ has almost identical values vor EPSG:3813 and 3814.

I'm not sure if qspatialite uses the Qgis CRS database or that of spatialite itself for the input mask.

Can you insert the .prj and qgis made Custom CRS string here?

  • I will insert the .prj and qgis CRS in about five hours or so, when I'm back at that computer--It's a Ubuntu 10.04 machine using the UbuntuGIS repositories. The same problem did occur with the standalone Spatialite-GUI as well. If I specific another SRID number, the shapefiles will load into the database. That lead me to believe that the problem is with the proj.4 definition in the reference table. Thanks for looking into this! – user12711 Nov 21 '12 at 19:12
  • Shapefiles correctly – user12711 Nov 21 '12 at 23:55
  • This won't allow me to paste into a comment field, but here goes (manual typing) USER:100003 - * Generated CRS (+proj=tmerc +lat_0=32.5+lon_0=89.75 +k=0.9998335 +x_0=500000 +y_0=1300000 +ellps=GRS80 +towgs84=0,0,0,0,0,0,0 +units=m +no_defs) ESRI.prj: PROJCS["mstm",GEOGCS["GCS_North_American_1983",DATUM ["D_North_American_1983",SPHEROID["GRS_1980",6378137.0,298.257222101]],PRIMEM ["Greenwich",0.0],UNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433]],PROJECTION["Transverse_Mercator"],PARAMETER["False_Easting",500000.0], [[to be continued next COMMENT]] – user12711 Nov 22 '12 at 0:12
  • PARAMETER ["False_Northing",1300000.0],PARAMETER["Central_Meridian",-89.75],PARAMETER["Scale_Factor",0.9998335],PARAMETER["Latitude_Of_Origin",32.5],UNIT["Meter",1.0]] – user12711 Nov 22 '12 at 0:14
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    The prj file lacks the AUTHORITY["EPSG","3814"] at the end, so spatialite has to guess from the values what SRID number it should take. This might go wrong in your case. – AndreJ Nov 22 '12 at 6:33

Use Spatialite_gui 1.5 or better for loading SRID:3814 shapefiles. Qspatialite 6.0.4 plugin for QGIS 1.8 (Lisboa)can't handle that EPSG yet.

  • Spatialite 4.0.0 was just released yesterday (11/25/2012). I'm not sure how that inter-operates with Qspatialite or Spatialite_Gui. But I see in a tutorial that prior versions possible used older Proj.4 SRID values. "3814" may have been added afterwards; perhaps that's the reason Qspatialite can't figure out what to do with an SRID:3814 – user12711 Nov 27 '12 at 16:47
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    Spatialite_gui was also updated to 1.6.0 on the same day. It contains all necessary files of spatialite 4.0.0 and sqlite. That makes Qspatialite even more behind the development. I guess Qspatialite only looks into the Qgis CRS database for valid SRIDs. You can have the latest GDAL 1.9.2 together with Qgis Lisboa via Osgeo4w installer. – AndreJ Nov 27 '12 at 18:20

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