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I have created a new dataset working with a predefined (and enforced) methodology that creates complex geometries that may have many interior rings making them donut polygons.

Some shapes may be simple rings:

simple ring

Some may be incredibly complex:

complex ring(s)

(this network is several miles long and contains 28 interior rings)

I need to calculate the approximate medial axis in order to split into 12m units along their length. polygons always make up a thin network so there is confidence that approximate medial axis will provide a sufficient central line. I have my approach for this working however it is not possible to calculate skeletons or medial axis' on rings/donuts.

Is there a straightforward way to break a donut into polygon without interior rings, but still maintaining the shapes integrity allowing for such processes as detailed above? An example desired output would be:

broken donut

This "split" was created in MS Paint.

My original thought was to take the centroid and build a LineString from a projection of nMetres north and south and use as a blade to ST_Split however this would not work for complex geometries, makes me uncomfortable as an approach and hoped there was a better solution to calculate these "network central lines". I thought about breaking up/splitting the network as a grid (although approach I am unsure of), to output hundreds of smaller polygons, calculating the medial axis for each and then unionising the output LineStrings; again, the approach feels like a poor workaround for poor data. This approach would also create obvious issues where the medial axis is perverted by modifying the polygon as demonstrated in another MS paint approximation:

Donut with grid

Donut with grid overlayed

hand drawn medial axis

Red line demonstrates incorrect medial axis on polygon split

Original single ring Donut (4326):

POLYGON((-0.553825519541172 51.3195197680391,-0.553828332004988 51.3195216012381,-0.553829766502607 51.31952161895,-0.553832578966705 51.3195234521489,-0.553833985198839 51.3195243687484,-0.553835334899984 51.3195270831231,-0.55383530663446 51.3195279820107,-0.553836684601286 51.3195297974977,-0.553836656335785 51.3195306963854,-0.553838006037268 51.31953341076,-0.553837977771789 51.3195343096477,-0.553837892975346 51.3195370063105,-0.553837864709861 51.3195379051982,-0.5538363736807 51.3195396852617,-0.553834882651423 51.3195414653251,-0.553833391622029 51.3195432453886,-0.553833363356451 51.3195441442762,-0.553830437828531 51.3195459066278,-0.553828975064486 51.3195467878035,-0.55382604953623 51.319548550155,-0.553798398338031 51.319560798052,-0.553744558664546 51.3195844126515,-0.553727118528775 51.3195913911958,-0.553674741552389 51.319614124588,-0.553673307051983 51.3196141068742,-0.55367040978234 51.3196149703342,-0.553668947013045 51.3196158515079,-0.553664615242729 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I know that this is computationally possible as using tools such as FME I am able to use CentralLineReplacer that works very quickly and accurately however I do not want to use FME.

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  • It may be hard to reach a result as in your "split" example with PostGIS because that seems to be invalid as a polygon geometry because of ring self-intersection. But with a little gap between the ends it would be OK. The donut in your example could probably be handled by taking either outer or inner ring and using offset line but i fear that it is not good as a general solution.
    – user30184
    Feb 15, 2022 at 11:45
  • @user30184 Yes, I fear the answer is that I need to push back on the initial dataset. Offsetting lines wont do it looking at the complex polygon and the fact that the polygon networks are rarely of a consistence width often tapering down.
    – Phish
    Feb 15, 2022 at 11:48
  • What are the polygons (in real life), and why do you want to split/break them? Might help to understand your problem
    – BERA
    Feb 15, 2022 at 13:03
  • @BERA They are buffered road networks that have been unionised, buffered and the the difference found so that we have a polygon representing 4 metres away and a 1 metre width. They need to be broken up so that we can perform an ST_ApproximateMedialAxis to understand a central line. This central is required to segment and split the network into 12m chunkcs
    – Phish
    Feb 15, 2022 at 13:57
  • What about doing a 4.5m buffer from the original road network then? That would (almost) be the central line (except at the ends)
    – JGH
    Feb 15, 2022 at 14:02

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So, in order to get the central axis of a polygon-donut, proceed as follows.

  1. Create a custom function ST_MergingTwoIsolinesOneAverage() https://gis.stackexchange.com/a/375525/120129.

  2. Run Spatial-SQL, while adjusting the required number of points (888 in my example):

WITH
    tbla(geom) AS (SELECT ST_SETSrid(ST_Boundary('POLYGON((-0.553825519541172 51.3195197680391,-0.553828332004988 51.3195216012381,-0.553829766502607 51.31952161895,-0.553832578966705 51.3195234521489,-0.553833985198839 51.3195243687484,-0.553835334899984 51.3195270831231,-0.55383530663446 51.3195279820107,-0.553836684601286 51.3195297974977,-0.553836656335785 51.3195306963854,-0.553838006037268 51.31953341076,-0.553837977771789 51.3195343096477,-0.553837892975346 51.3195370063105,-0.553837864709861 51.3195379051982,-0.5538363736807 51.3195396852617,-0.553834882651423 51.3195414653251,-0.553833391622029 51.3195432453886,-0.553833363356451 51.3195441442762,-0.553830437828531 51.3195459066278,-0.553828975064486 51.3195467878035,-0.55382604953623 51.319548550155,-0.553798398338031 51.319560798052,-0.553744558664546 51.3195844126515,-0.553727118528775 51.3195913911958,-0.553674741552389 51.319614124588,-0.553673307051983 51.3196141068742,-0.55367040978234 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                  SELECT ST_MergingTwoIsolinesOneAverage(ST_Union(geom), 888) geom FROM tbla

Check the result, and if necessary, adjust the number of points, the more there are, the more accurate and smoother the result.

Remember, this geo-tool is not simple, and it can work with the boundaries of closed shapes like polygons-doughnuts among other things :-)...

Original spatial solutions...

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

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  • Thank you, The function takes a little time to digest. I will read through and work and get back to you this evening.
    – Phish
    Feb 16, 2022 at 8:58
  • Vector functions are indeed "heavy," but they are more reliable in their behavior...
    – Cyril Mikhalchenko
    Feb 16, 2022 at 17:35
  • Yes I agree. I avoid using alternative software like the plague and try to do everything using Vector Functions. I was not trained and not from a mathematical background so find it much better to learn. I am looking through now thank you.
    – Phish
    Feb 16, 2022 at 18:45
  • 1) In this case there is no need to rush, 2) I think there are strengths and weaknesses in the application of both vector geometry and raster algebra, you just have to know how to use them correctly...
    – Cyril Mikhalchenko
    Feb 16, 2022 at 19:23

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