I have a LiDAR tile with segmented which includes respective tree IDs using silva2016. Now, I am looking for a way to compute the crown widths of each of the segmented trees.

How or which metric can I use to do this?

Purpose: In ArcGIS Pro 3 you can use the Draw preset layers tool to render Realistic Trees in 3D on a map. This tool requires height and crown width information of each tree. I have ztop but don't have the crown width information.


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Segmented LAS via silva2016:

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Draw preset layers



LAS_TreeID = segment_trees(LAS , 
                           CHM_pitfree.TTops_Manual2)) # segment point cloud
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    First, you must define what is the "radius" of set of points that is not circular. Once you have a definition that fits your needs I may be able to help you. But without a definition there are hundreds of possible answers.
    – JRR
    Sep 23, 2022 at 20:01
  • @JRR the documentation of the tool refers to it as crown width (Section Realistic Trees) Sep 23, 2022 at 20:30
  • @JRR any updates? Sep 26, 2022 at 11:50

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In absence of a clear definition of the radius/width of objects that are not circular we can assume they are almost circular i.e. the convex hull of each tree is not to far from a circle. In this case the radius can be approximated by sqrt(A/pi).

LASfile <- system.file("extdata", "MixedConifer.laz", package="lidR")
trees <- readLAS(LASfile, filter = "-drop_z_below 0")
metrics <- crown_metrics(trees, .stdtreemetrics)
metrics$radius = sqrt(metrics$convhull_area/pi)

For a more complex definition, we need... a definition.

  • So I should ask ESRI what they mean by Crown Width? Sep 26, 2022 at 13:21
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    No, I think they mean exactly what they mean. The width is the diameter to plot circular objects. But you want to extract the diameter of something that is not circular. It could be the diameter the largest circle that includes all points. Or another circle that "fits" one the points. Or something else.
    – JRR
    Sep 26, 2022 at 13:27
  • Hi JRR, hope all is well, so what are the default units for convhull_area? Let's say the LiDAR units are in feet then the units for convhull_area would be square feet right? Dec 7, 2023 at 16:02
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    In the units of the point cloud.
    – JRR
    Dec 7, 2023 at 16:04

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